Thousand Sons vs Space Wolves Warhammer 40k Battle Report Ep 99


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MWGsteve (4 weeks ago): - delete
@MandaloreM:
"Why do they have a 3+ inv. save?? it should be 4 ?! And there a 3 relics in Steves army?! really huge mistakes there."

Your incorrect.

Items are not one per army,its one per Character.

And how to get a 3 inv save if in the new rules.
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Kovlovsky (4 weeks ago): - delete
Seeing Steve playing Thousand Sons is a dream coming true for an old TS player like myself (started in 2001)! I hope that I will see them on the board more often! I'm glad to see Ben again too! And dat moment when the Defiler was blown up from the overwatch of a single plasma gun was hilarious! Hahaha!

There is a mistake though. Steve, as much as I hate it, since TS have to take the Mark of Tzeentch on all models who can, you are forced to generate at least one power on the Tzeentch table on all psykers including daemon princes because of the CSM rules about marks of chaos. Because of the chaos psychic focus, you also always get the primaris (Tzeentch Firestorm). That means that your level 3 psykers would be only able to roll on 2 powers on other disciplines and the Scarab Occult Sorcer only one power on something else that Tzeentch. This is probably the thing I most ardently want GW to remove in the next codex, but right now we have to deal with it. It's not that the Tzeentch discipline is bad since it has been improved a lot, but it limits our flexibility which is stupid for the most powerful psykers in the galaxy. And Boon of Mutation sucks. It has to be said.
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buckaroo13 (4 weeks ago): - delete
Did MWG house rule invisibility? If so I really like the WS/BS 1.
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DanielTMU (4 weeks ago): - delete
Ben!
Never give up, never surrender!
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MWGsteve (4 weeks ago): - delete
@Mog

Chaotic focus, my bad!
Terminators, sweeping advance. i always forget for some reason.

But there is nothing in the spell familiar entry thats says its one use per phase.
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Kovlovsky (4 weeks ago): - delete
@MandaloreM In a Thousand Sons army, units affected by a blessing gain +1 to their invulnerable save. Also, he had one relic by character which is absolutely allowed. The daemon prince had the Burning Brand of Skalathrax, the Exalted Sorcerer had the Seer's Bane and the Sorcerer had the Astral Grimoire. It's one relic by character, not one by army.
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Mog (4 weeks ago): - delete
Glad to see you playing 1000 Sons Steve. very few rules errors for your first time with the army!

The only things I noticed were:

Chaotic focus.

Terminators (and IC attached to) cannot sweeping advance.

I think you may have used your Deamon Princes spell familiar re-roll twice in the first psykic phase.

Props to you and Ben for a fun & well played game.
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MWGsteve (4 weeks ago): - delete
@NerazimZerin
It the terminator armor that doesnt allow sweeping advances.

however if i could have legally done a sweeping advance,they wouldnt have killed the space wolves because of the And they Shall know no fear rule
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SemperSteel (4 weeks ago): - delete
Steve, unless the new Thousand Sons got a rules change or something, every psyker is by default mark of tzeentch, and therefore must roll at least 1 power on the Change discipline.
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jonsmith (4 weeks ago): - delete
Am I missing something, or did nothing get out of that drop pod in turn 1??!?!
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David92 (3 weeks ago): - delete
You can cast beams through walls Steve and you don't need LoS to do it
Netrisca (3 weeks ago): - delete
Happy Birthday Steve!
HydraulicGold2 (4 weeks ago): - delete
@MWG Steve Scarab Occult Terminators aren't slow and purposeful, and can Overwatch as a result
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mouser04 (4 weeks ago): - delete
Steve don't forget thousand sons and space wolves have prefer enemy to each well Tyson do and wolves have hatred
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tyranidfan9 (4 weeks ago): - delete
I can't believe how well the TS did. I thought their high points cost would gimp them, but this is convincing me otherwise.
Marijan999 (4 weeks ago): - delete
@19:45 Steve you rolled 3 for psychic charges and your opponent didn't get one more for that new psyker he got through empyric cards. so he could deny with 4 dice.
Templarknight92 (4 weeks ago): - delete
at 1944 the Space Wolves should have gotten four deny the witch dices, 3 from the roll and +1 from his physic apotheosis long fang... rules you got wrong please
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Randobar (4 weeks ago): - delete
Those Thousand Sons Conversions look sweet
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Absol00t (4 weeks ago): - delete
Commenting myself
Sorry wrong vid, but cannot edit my comment
Absol00t (4 weeks ago): - delete
Hey Steeve,

According to Jes Godwin (he designed and sculpted the mini), your pronouncing of Ynnead is correct. It's Eeeh-nay-had and defenitly not "I need", as your opponent strongly suggested
Best regards,
A.
MorglumNecksnapper (4 weeks ago): - delete
35:50 move 12" and get out of a transport? I call an Illegal procedure
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DanielTMU (4 weeks ago): - delete
@Itmarcos:
Duder was within 2" of a model from the same unit (terminator) who was in base contact (wobbly model syndrome) so it was legal.
DanielTMU (4 weeks ago): - delete
Steve,
@47:50ish you Chareged the Tank, but in the Shooting Phase you Targeted the Infantry Unit. That Prince made an illegal Charge. Pumpkin Eater. >_<^ Luv ya anyway!
VMFL
TheSuaveLion (4 weeks ago): - delete
Hey Steve, Cool batrep but here are a few things i believe you missed.
The grand coven detachment doesn't allow you to know an extra power but instead manifest an extra one. I believe this is done so you can still trigger Tzeentch' blessing with force or provide more offense with the firestorm.

also at 33:18 you missed a hellfyre shot on a 1 result, Th war cabal says that when a psyker casts a blessing, he and the unit he joined can re roll to hit rolls of one.

Cheers
ltmarcos (4 weeks ago): - delete
Unless I missed something the Daemon Prince only has 4 wounds so should have been down to 1 wound at the end of the game. In the end it didn't matter since it ended but for future reference 4 wounds not 5
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ltmarcos (4 weeks ago): - delete
@50 min when attacking with the scarab occult sorcerer wouldn't he or one of his unit need to be in base contact with the wulfen to put his attacks on him. I may be wrong multiple units in a combat gets confusing sometimes
Kovlovsky (4 weeks ago): - delete
@NerazimZerin Scarab Occult Terminators aren't Slow and Purposeful, but they are still considered as having normal terminator armors and terminators cannot make sweeping advances.

The confusion arises because they visually look like 30k Tartarus Terminators which are allowed to do sweeping advances, but this is purely for Horus Heresy. The 40k Scarab Occult don't have this exception and behave exactly like any kind of terminator.
NerazimZerin (4 weeks ago): - delete
@Mog
@MWGsteve

I thought thousand son termies were special and don't have slow and purposeful so they can sweeping advance, also, why aren't you killing them when you do catch them?
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ahzek ahriman (4 weeks ago): - delete
@jonsmith, they mentioned that he deployed the blood claws squad normally instead of putting them in their dedicated transport - drop pod. That's the reason drop pod was empty
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ahzek ahriman (4 weeks ago): - delete
Steve, at 10:43, there were 6 models in a squad and you rolled 8 dice to wound from the blast...

I don't judge though, you have to kill those damn wolves with any methods you can
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jackal1994 (4 weeks ago): - delete
steve please do rehati war sect with 9 exalted sorcerers theres come gret combos can make a unit with all of them and make it invisible and have a guy up front with a 2 + rerollable invun
Mog (4 weeks ago): - delete
Thanks for the correction on spell familiars Steve, I've been doing it wrong this entire time!

MandaloreM

Terminators have 5+ improved to a 4 for Mark of Tzeentch and then down to 3 for being in a thousand sons detachment with veterans of the long war and under the influence of a blessing.
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Kovlovsky (4 weeks ago): - delete
38:12 Weren't these terminators under invisibility at that time? If that's the case, Ben should have hit them on 6s.
MandaloreM (4 weeks ago): - delete
Why do they have a 3+ inv. save?? it should be 4 ?! And there a 3 relics in Steves army?! really huge mistakes there.
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ChampionLogan (4 weeks ago): - delete
@23:30 Didn't you do a multi charge? You had too many attacks if so and from the rolls, it may have made a difference
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