Alpha Legion vs Ultramarines Horus Heresy 30k Battle Report Ep15


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BaalTriumphant (12 months ago): - delete
A few rules errors:

-MoS is non-compulsory as mentioned in a few comments
-MoS also can't fire his combardment and give +1 BS with his cognis signum in the same round
-Alpharius and his Vets couldn't charge the turn after their rhino got wrecked because the rhino isn't an assault vehicle (stupid rule).
-Alpharius cannot be revealed until turn 2.
-Headhunters have power daggers, profile minus 1S AP3

Those are the ones I saw.
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Hydra (12 months ago): - delete
Master of Signal is a Support Officer now (updated, read the FAQs), so he can't be your Compulsory HQ.
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Myelin (12 months ago): - delete
I've never seen 30k Ultramarines in action. Those terminators are incredibly brutal. They seem like of some of the best 30k elites- don't you think?
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Oxford1990 (12 months ago): - delete
Quirk you had some aweful luck there. You forgot to re roll wounds of a 1 so often for preferred enemy though!
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Obyiscus (12 months ago): - delete
Just a tactical note for Quirk:

As infiltrate lets you deploy most of your force after the enemy, it would have likely been better for you to deploy first (deploy the thing that doesn't get infiltrate) and then deploy the rets after your opponent deployed (that way you would get to go first)
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Narfwak (12 months ago): - delete
You cannot take a Master of Signal as a Compulsory HQ; if you bring one you have to have some other HQ in your army, and Primarchs don't count since they're a LoW and not an HQ. It's been in the FAQ for over a year. Current version: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf

Also, you can't use both the Cognis-Signum to boost a unit's Ballistic Skill and call in the Bombardment on the same turn, as they both take the place of a shooting attack. It's strictly one or the other.

Echoing what @Hydra is saying - please use the Age of Darkness core missions some time. They're in HH5: Tempest, HH6: Retribution, and the Taghmata Army List book. Horus Heresy isn't really Horus Heresy if you're not playing the Horus Heresy missions.

And, yeah, Contemptors are front AV 13. It's, uh, kind of their main defining attribute. Of all the things to get wrong that one really baffles me.
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Hydra (12 months ago): - delete
Contemptors are Front Armour 13. This is starting to look like the Lootas debacle, no matter how many comments about it you guys just won't listen...
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badgerbotherer (12 months ago): - delete
I don't think you could have charged with Alpharius and his squad as you infiltrated with them in the rhino. Is that how it works?
Awesome battle report though, Quirk either rolls amazingly or awfully I swear.
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Hydra (12 months ago): - delete
There are specific missions for Battles in the Age of Darkness (aka 30k), the best version is in book five. Please use them sometime.
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grantix89 (12 months ago): - delete
Damn Quirk that was hard to watch, that squad of terminators just owned everything it put its sights on! Even Alpharius. Felt the big tank was a bit wasted points, not great positioning, and assaulting the contemptor with the jetbikes was not the smartest option perhaps? I don't know. Good game, just a bit one sided! Shame the Leviathan dread did not get to do much, was looking forward to that.
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FleshCraft (11 months ago): - delete
Witcher!
DVO (12 months ago): - delete
I enjoyed the game. Quirk I liked that you made him deploy first but I think you hsould have used Alpharius' special rule to steal the initiative. I get that in relic it is good to go second to take it but I think you missed an opportunity to put some hurt on the terminator unit. Just some friendly advice and I like watching your reports.
tonicknight (12 months ago): - delete
should have received watched the video before posting xD so let me change my question to how did you get veterans as troops choices
tonicknight (12 months ago): - delete
I'm rather confused and looking for some help as I'm new to 30k. how do you get heavy bolter in the tactical squad? how do you get the harness that makes them assaul? also tactical can't take the special ammo
Stravo1 (12 months ago): - delete
Quirk those are some beautifully painted Alpha Legion models. That hue of blue is amazing. Did you use ghost tints or something like that to achieve the metallic blue effect? The Ultra player was very classy in letting Quirk go with his jetbikes without making terrain checks through the tank traps. Its that kind of sportsmanship that makes these battle reports fun to watch.
lizardqueen (12 months ago): - delete
Quirk,
Head Hunters including Alpharius have Venom Spheres, which gives them hammer of wrath.
Bluewater1976 (12 months ago): - delete
Is that Apharius an Forge World model or where is it from?
Sindinista (12 months ago): - delete
How did Alpharius charge turn 2? He came out of a rhino... Doesn't matter if it explodes, you still can't charge.
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Samurai-X-V1 (12 months ago): - delete
Quirk, i feel like your jet bikes could do with some weathering or discolouration around the engine area to do the models justice, it just seems odd seeing them with bright silver metal all over. just take this as critique and not naysaying for your painting.
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FlipmodeSH (12 months ago): - delete
Hide! Be sneaky Alpha Legion!

You treat them like Oaks.
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rymonkey007 (12 months ago): - delete
Sorry cognis-signum pg. 88 of red horus heresy book. Also it's ordnance so you couldn't fire or because you moved 6 in and he's not relentless terrific bat rep tho I always root for you alpha legion man !
rymonkey007 (12 months ago): - delete
At 15:21 you can't increase balistic skill AND fire your orbital barrage, pg also you can subtract balistic skill when you do if you have line of sight.
ahzek ahriman (12 months ago): - delete
for some reason it really bothers me that ultramarines got better tyrant siege terminators equivalent with more options and better rules than iron warriors

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Obyiscus (12 months ago): - delete
It would have been smart to challenge the Praetor with Alpharius so as to kill him before he could strike (the pale spear has instant death)
Obyiscus (12 months ago): - delete
perferred enemy applies tp to-hit and to-wound rolls
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Ishagu (12 months ago): - delete
Tactical errors from Quirk, not to mention the myriad of rules errors.

Guess he deserved to lose

PS: I like Quirk more than Steve
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Hydra (12 months ago): - delete
You could challenge with Alpharius, good way to kill characters before they attack. Bad luck overall but Quirk makes some big mistakes: Alpharius should go kill Terminators, denying them the charge and hoping to run them down. Jetbikes are not that good vs Contemptors with their high Ws and lots of attacks (as I said, check out the FAQ, dreads got more Attacks now). Veterans not deploying in cover and jumping out that close to the enemy seem kind of like askimg for it, even with a 4+ seize.
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Hydra (12 months ago): - delete
Headhunters have new rules, better but with some changes. Check them out in the new book.
Soupcat (12 months ago): - delete
@Myelin Its a strong squad but it is also 475 points and gets significantly worse the more models it loses.
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Mrwonderland (12 months ago): - delete
Hi Quirk,
Only problem I found was that you didn't have a legal HQ. The FAQ + Errata for 30k states that a Master of Signal is a 'Support Officer' and thus can't be the detachments compulsory HQ. Other than that great game.
wolfman1901 (12 months ago): - delete
maybe you should have taken another legion... Dark blue marines vs dark blue marines is kinda tough to follow, especially in melee
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Quirk and Thomas battle it out in this 2000 point game of Alpha Legion vs. Ultramarines

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