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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 8:35 am 
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I'm about to remake my gaming table. I've got one now, but that's pretty ugly, only a wallboard, covered with green... and even ragged at some places.

So I would like to make the board look something like this:

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What I plan is, to make the sides of the table straight with emery paper (because it's in two sides) so it would be easy to smoothly put them together.

I would recover it with green, especially at the missing places. Then I would spray the whole, with brown paint, then paint with some watered down Black Ink. After that dried I would go over some Bleached Bone drybrush and at the end I would cover it with green static grass in large patches...

However I'm not sure about the colours of the paints and the glue to use for such vast area (I should not use small super glues though). What do you suggest?


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However I'm not sure about the colours of the paints and the glue to use for such vast area (I should not use small super glues though). What do you suggest?


i hope that im understanding the question

IMO i would go to a hardware/home improvment store (not to sure what is in your area) and i would get some house hold paint mixed up in the color that you will be painting the majority of your base with as this will be far more cost effective than useing modle paint ( a quart(946ml) will cover 100 sqft) . this also goes for the glue too(get a large bottle of white(pva) or carpenters(yellow)glue).

pick a kichen/bath paint that has an eggshell finish as it will be durable without the shine

as far as the color goes that all depends on how much flock you plan to use. if it were me i would use a very dark browny/black (like a rich soil) as a basecoat so that that color will shoe threw the flock and sand a bit.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:03 am 
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I've got brown paint spray and green static grass for this purpose. So should I use PVA glue for the table itself? I will use simple green flock and I'll paint it with the brown. I'm also planning to paint it with watered down black ink, but not sure how to use that for such vast area.


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Nagash wrote:
I've got brown paint spray and green static grass for this purpose. So should I use PVA glue for the table itself? I will use simple green flock and I'll paint it with the brown. I'm also planning to paint it with watered down black ink, but not sure how to use that for such vast area.


If I understand everything right (which I´m not sure I do, had to google a few words to see what they meant) you want to make your surface looking like the picture. Then I shall recomend you a few things:

1: Brown undercoat, not green.
2: Sand, preferably mixed up with the brown undercoat, not too much but not to little either. You want your highlights to stick to something so it doesn´t look too flat.
You can also glue the sand on before painting the undercoat using watered down PVA glue, but that will waste more paint than necessary, belive me.
3: Really, there is no such thing as green paint on that picture (at least not on the ground). All the green is done with mixes of static grass and flock. Static grass is first glue on using watered down PVA and the flock are used to fill in the gaps (better explanation: glue first, then grass, then flock. No extra glue before the flock).


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:15 am 
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Apa1994 wrote:
Nagash wrote:
I've got brown paint spray and green static grass for this purpose. So should I use PVA glue for the table itself? I will use simple green flock and I'll paint it with the brown. I'm also planning to paint it with watered down black ink, but not sure how to use that for such vast area.


If I understand everything right (which I´m not sure I do, had to google a few words to see what they meant) you want to make your surface looking like the picture. Then I shall recomend you a few things:

1: Brown undercoat, not green.
2: Sand, preferably mixed up with the brown undercoat, not too much but not to little either. You want your highlights to stick to something so it doesn´t look too flat.
You can also glue the sand on before painting the undercoat using watered down PVA glue, but that will waste more paint than necessary, belive me.
3: Really, there is no such thing as green paint on that picture (at least not on the ground). All the green is done with mixes of static grass and flock. Static grass is first glue on using watered down PVA and the flock are used to fill in the gaps (better explanation: glue first, then grass, then flock. No extra glue before the flock).


I've never said I wanna use green paint. I said that I'm using brown on it, then watered down black ink then at the end, drybrush with bleached bone of the top of it. I believe when using PVA glue, then sand/flock will easily come off with time.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:28 am 
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Nagash wrote:
I would recover it with green, especially at the missing places. Then I would spray the whole, with brown paint, then paint with some watered down Black Ink. After that dried I would go over some Bleached Bone drybrush and at the end I would cover it with green static grass in large patches...


Then I clearly misunderstood that part. :mrgreen:

I think that that will work good, although I dont think you need spray paint, regular paint will work just fine. But I still recomend that you use some sand (if I haven´t misunderstood that as well :mrgreen: ) so that your bleached bone can stick to something.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:11 am 
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Apa1994 wrote:
Nagash wrote:
I would recover it with green, especially at the missing places. Then I would spray the whole, with brown paint, then paint with some watered down Black Ink. After that dried I would go over some Bleached Bone drybrush and at the end I would cover it with green static grass in large patches...


Then I clearly misunderstood that part. :mrgreen:

I think that that will work good, although I dont think you need spray paint, regular paint will work just fine. But I still recomend that you use some sand (if I haven´t misunderstood that as well :mrgreen: ) so that your bleached bone can stick to something.


Well I was about to use simple green flock. That I would paint over with brown, then black ink and bleached bone drybrush. I prefered spray, because thats much quicker, but I still unsure how will I do the ink part of it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:50 am 
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So if I understand you right (which we now by now I usually don´t) you are going to paint the flock brown and then black ink wash (I´ll come to that later) followed by bleached bone. So there wont be any of the green color in the flock showing through?

And the black ink wash I think you should just use regular black paint and water it down. You dont really need a ink.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:55 am 
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Apa1994 wrote:
So if I understand you right (which we now by now I usually don´t) you are going to paint the flock brown and then black ink wash (I´ll come to that later) followed by bleached bone. So there wont be any of the green color in the flock showing through?

And the black ink wash I think you should just use regular black paint and water it down. You dont really need a ink.


All right all right, watered down paint or ink, nevermind, but yes, you understand well. And then I would cover it with green static grass in patches.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:12 am 
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I've upgraded some terrains to the style my table going to look like. What do you think?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:02 pm 
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Looks fantastic! Great work!

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Looks fantastic! Great work!

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Thanks. So do you think it would work with the board as well?


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I continued remaking some terrains for the would-be new board.

Here is an all-together pic of the remade terrain features:
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And the details of the new ones:
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Thanks. So do you think it would work with the board as well?


Oh, never noticed this question before, sorry dude.
I think they fit the board perfectly fine. It's not the same exact green but it looks close enough. The new pieces are awesome too dude! The small pond looks and the rocky hills look real.

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Looks very nice! Your paint skills in the lake are really awesome!

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