A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates. (The Umbral Fleet.)

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A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates. (The Umbral Fleet.)

Post by Damn Lucky » Fri May 29, 2009 6:23 pm

Hello. I'm not going to lie, I only joined these forums because of this cool game system. I'm very interested in a 28mm game system that potionaly could be a great small scale and deep war game I could get my friends in to, who are turned off by the high model counts and expensive kits involved in 40k.

I Nicked this idea from a user Submission on the "Warfactory Liberty and Union" Forum. Sadly the submission/suggestion hasn't gotten alot of attention. But This seemed like a perfect idea for a murador group in your game system.

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(Yes there kinda crude photo shops made from multiple sources. But they give the idea. This conscpt was suggested by one of the forum users.)
http://www.wargamesfactory.com/BookingR ... x?ID=50990




The Idea is they would be bandits that live only on sky ships. They would kidnap women and children from other villages and settlements to swell there own ranks, along with stealing supplies, technologies, and Raw Materials. With there citiy being in fact a fleet of Airships, you can never know were they will strike, and it's hard to ever attack them directly.


Edit: Game Play Wise I'm thinking these guys would play alot like Eldar in 40k. A High specialized, and highly mobile elite army. Also like elder they would generally be more lightly armored.
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Re: A Fration Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates.

Post by buzzxf » Fri May 29, 2009 7:47 pm

I'm not sure about this faction you have come up with. I mean Japan probably sank in the event and Pirates are just bandits on boats. Remember this is post apocalyptic.

P.S. You spelled Faction wrong in the Subject.
Oh, crap a giant spaceship.

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Re: A Fration Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates.

Post by Damn Lucky » Fri May 29, 2009 8:39 pm

buzzxf wrote:I'm not sure about this faction you have come up with. I mean Japan probably sank in the event
That could be part of there fluff. Japaneses who survived Japan Sinking and have fallen back to practicing STRICT "Samurai Code".


[quote="buzzxf"Pirates are just bandits on boats. Remember this is post apocalyptic.
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SKY pirates.
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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates.

Post by blackvaultz » Sat May 30, 2009 9:53 am

thats cooler than the moon faction idea but good luck with that :mrgreen:
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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates.

Post by DigitalNinja » Sat May 30, 2009 9:14 pm

If you wanna try a game with a low model count that is out now, get some warmachine figs.
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Post by Damn Lucky » Sun May 31, 2009 12:42 pm

DigitalNinja wrote:If you wanna try a game with a low model count that is out now, get some war machine figs.
My friends aren't feeling it. The whole giant steam powered robots thing just doesn't appeal to them. Witch is two bad because I think it's pretty cool.

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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates.

Post by DooldeenBoosh » Sun May 31, 2009 12:55 pm

Those mask worn by the thirst three figures, imitating that of the Plague doctors, is actually quite moody and I think would fit the atmosphere. Although I would not necesarly make them elite units, Highly specialised yes, but not super powerfull, even such pirates would have to look for settlements an bases to loot in the wastes, this would weaken them quite a bit. I agree with the posibility of having "air" pirates, easy way to travel through the cracks of the surface and the ruined cities, also with slavaged high tech balloons and simple hover crafts are quite easy to create.

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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates.

Post by Damn Lucky » Sun May 31, 2009 1:18 pm

DooldeenBoosh wrote:Those mask worn by the thirst three figures, imitating that of the Plague doctors, is actually quite moody and I think would fit the atmosphere. Although I would not necesarly make them elite units, Highly specialised yes, but not super powerfull, even such pirates would have to look for settlements an bases to loot in the wastes, this would weaken them quite a bit. I agree with the posibility of having "air" pirates, easy way to travel through the cracks of the surface and the ruined cities, also with slavaged high tech balloons and simple hover crafts are quite easy to create.
I've always loved Plague Doctor Masks.
X3


I would describe them was "Elite but fragile". The idea is they could have diffrent "dirty tricks". Examples would be smoke screens and smoke machines to conceal them when moving foreword or retreating.

They could also have a Vanguard unit that's able to deploy ahead of there lines, behind the enemy lines, or even come on mid game behind the enemy. The idea is they are rappelling down from there airships straight into the fight.

They would also have higher movement values due to there low light Armour.




But they would have to be fragile as a trade off. Small lightly armored units. The idea is they would be highly mobile, but when playing ageist them if you can get them bogged down and get them stuck in a straight shoot out. They will probably lose.


Fluff wise, there enemies would believe that they are demons sent to finish off humanity. There cruelty know no bounds, and they hold no remorse for killing there fellow man. There ships emerging from dark clouds of smoke they descend on settlements to pillage and plunder. With systems full of stem drugs and harrash training since childhood they move with a inhuman grace and speed. Moving from cover to cover firing with terrifying accuracy. From child hood each is trained to fight with undieing loyalty to the shogun of there fleet.

After they take what they want, the leave as fast as they came. Returning to there airships, and returning to the dark clouds of smoke that they came from.

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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates.

Post by Fusebox45 » Sun May 31, 2009 1:33 pm

one word: Nice.

More words: Dark Eldar much? lol

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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates.

Post by Damn Lucky » Sun May 31, 2009 2:40 pm

Fusebox45 wrote:one word: Nice.

More words: Dark Eldar much? lol
Hehehehe. XD I completely forgot about the Dark eldar! Poor dark eldar...


Edit: More fluff. Also came up with a name for them. The Umbral Fleet.

The Umbral Fleet's tecnology is cobbled together from many sources. Do to the speed at witch they travel from settlement to settlement they have been able to admass a HUGE collection of technologies originating from many of the diffrent nation states the existed before the Event.

They have even been able to recover detailed information on arms manufacturing. From this Information they have been able to craft the Monocular Katana. A Blade Sharpened to the finest point, it is able to cleave easily threw all but the thickest of Armour and bulk heads.

Survivors claim these devilish swords have been used to cleave threw solid steel doors, and even cut fully armored Shield Troopers in half with a single elegant cut.

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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates. (The Umbral Fleet.)

Post by OnyxBlade159 » Sun May 31, 2009 10:20 pm

sweet idea. my only problem with it is the Umbral Fleet reminds me too much of Dark Eldar. lol but that's just me. otherwise, awesome idea
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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates. (The Umbral Fleet.)

Post by Damn Lucky » Sun May 31, 2009 10:47 pm

lol. Well it was the best name I chould come up with. Since Umbral means Shadows/shades/ghosts, it was the PERFECT word to describe them.

A ghostly Fleet that emerges from the shadows.
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If you can think of a better name, I'm game to hear one.
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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates. (The Umbral Fleet.)

Post by Exin » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:10 am

I think this is the most awesome faction idea yet. However, you already sai you kinda stole it. So unless the original owner comes in here and give MWG permision to use this, it is rather useless. Copyright laws forbid them using stuff without permission of the original owner I think.

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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates. (The Umbral Fleet.)

Post by DooldeenBoosh » Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:45 am

Maybe if you think of it that way they are similar to dark eldar, but than again everything today could be related to something else, it just the context you put them in differs.
Making them fragile, so in PH rules they woul hve no armor value and negative modifiers for defence, and the type of combat they are not specialised in. I like the idea...but i wouldn`t play them, my style is more of a tough-as-nail army like space marines, but not neceseraly as good in killing. Spacemarines epuiped with lasguns :lol:

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Re: A Faction Idea. Ronin Sky Pirates. (The Umbral Fleet.)

Post by Damn Lucky » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:04 pm

Exin wrote:I think this is the most awesome faction idea yet. However, you already sai you kinda stole it. So unless the original owner comes in here and give MWG permision to use this, it is rather useless. Copyright laws forbid them using stuff without permission of the original owner I think.
Technically the idea isn't copy writed. But it would be good edicite to ask. I'm trying to get a hold of him again right now. But I got the feeling he would be THRILLED if his idea became a official fraction in a game system.
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In my defense I've added to them a bit to help them fit into the setting. But I still consider them his babies.
XD

Accualy I want to talk to him any way to see if we could come up with more weapon and unit ideas for these guys. lol


They were original a fan faction for WHFB. *shrugs* Go figure. They also seemed abit out of place in that setting.



DooldeenBoosh wrote:Maybe if you think of it that way they are similar to dark eldar, but than again everything today could be related to something else, it just the context you put them in differs.
Making them fragile, so in PH rules they woul hve no armor value and negative modifiers for defence, and the type of combat they are not specialised in. I like the idea...but i wouldn`t play them, my style is more of a tough-as-nail army like space marines, but not neceseraly as good in killing. Spacemarines epuiped with lasguns :lol:

Glad you like the idea also.
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-Molecular Bladed Katana/Nodachi
-Long Bore Auto Rifle
-Long Bore Lazar Rifle
-Hand Cannon (Game wise it chould shoot like a shot gun, Except stronger. Alt fire shots like the Missie Launcher except with a shorter range since it's hip fired.)

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