Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:36 pm Posts: 388 Location: Sunny Cali USA
So i just got my codex today(along with some paints) and i was wounding who do you find to be your best HQ choice? What do you take on them? What are some fun choices? Also why is there no model for Decapitator? i was planing on making the whole army plastic anyways, using DE, dark elves and craftworld eldar, I hate dealing with metal. Any ideas on conversions?
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Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:27 pm Posts: 97 Location: Parry Sound ON.
Awesome! My kids would word it Sick!!! Those are well done my hats of to the creator. Nice to see people taking pride in thier army of choice and personnalizing the figures. I hope G.W. takes notice and remembers that the love of Commorragh still exists.
I made my Decapitator from a metal Mandrake. Still a WIP as posted.
I've used other Independent models as different HQ choices. Lelith as a Archon, a Dracon and Kruellagh as a Haemonculus. Even use Wych models with Blasters and Shredders as Warriors.
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:27 pm Posts: 97 Location: Parry Sound ON.
I have some wych type models from the Fantasy War Hammer army of Dark Elfs. They have more models/box (more bang for the buck). They also have some other cool models I'm considering to use for my D.E. Just so you know I'm in love with Lelith and I'm thinking of asking her to marry me. I've been using her in my Wych army for two years and can't get enough of her. I believe she is one of the best HQ's in the game with respect to points. High Int., high W.S., 2+ inv. sav. and choice of Drugs. I'm presently using the 40K model for her however would like to see anyones poxy.
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:36 pm Posts: 388 Location: Sunny Cali USA
i spent a good minute looking her over, and yes she a great killer, but the only way i would take her is a joint force. Like it says in her profile. and idk if i would want her because of the shadow field, not that it isn't good but i would like it on something bigger.
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You are talking about Lelith? Since she is a Archite, she'd be the wych lord commander in your Wych Cult army. So no archon/incubi, or Haemonculus. From that point it's kinda easy.
From a point for point comparison, she blows away any Archite or even Dracite comparison. On top of that she has better stats than a normal Archite. Short of a few different options like Punisher Archites, she's easily worth the points. Especially the 7 WS. That means most other characters will still need 5+ to hit, if they live after her I8 strikes.
Where she really shines though, is sticking her with a small retinue with Succubus. That gives you a 6 man unit with 2 Agonizers, and you get to choose what drug the unit gets, and according to the GW FAQ, that includes Lelith. I usually opt for the 12" charge, or the +1 WS(mostly for enemies attacking the Wyches). Although re-roll misses is nice as well. That means you likely have raider mounted unit that assaults turn one.
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:27 pm Posts: 97 Location: Parry Sound ON.
Oh Yeah!! Notice as well that if Lelith looses the 2+ inv. save she still has the 4+ inv. in C.C. I once assaulted the Nightbringer with Lelith, now thats a story worth tellin. Because her strenght was three she was pushed away each time he tried to assault, but everytime Lelith assaulted old Nighty he had to pray to make his saves. By the way did you know that the nightbringer is not immune to instant death ( he is not an eternal warrior). By some stroke of luck Lelith was still standing after 4 rounds. Lelith is like the Queen in the Chess world and once you play her more and more you will miss the times you don't include her in your army. She embodies the theology of the D.E. army (i.e. speed, high Int. and killer in C.C.). Plus she is down right Sexy.
We realized afterwards that the titan could have left CC, but he probably wouldn't have because he was looking to finish me in my phase to use the self repair roll.
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:36 pm Posts: 388 Location: Sunny Cali USA
xzandrate wrote:
You are talking about Lelith? Since she is a Archite, she'd be the wych lord commander in your Wych Cult army. So no archon/incubi, or Haemonculus. From that point it's kinda easy.
It written in the dex, you can take Lelith in a ordinary DE army using the joint force rules, page 131 in the WH rule book......... But this is an older dex i didn't know if the joint force rule is still around.
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Hmmm, does it have the white "Second Edition" stamp on the front?
Should look just like the one pictured on the GW page
If not that could explain why you are under-rating her.
The original codex recieved a Chapter Approved update quite a while ago. A few things dropped in cost, and a few rules changed. Most notably Wyches. They streamlined all the wych weapons into one broad upgrade, instead of the individual hydraknives, impaler/shardnets, etc. The new wych weapons reduce an opponents WS in half when attacking the wyches, and remove any bonus they recieve due to pistols/additional CC weapon.
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:27 pm Posts: 97 Location: Parry Sound ON.
Good Question. I'm not sure about the joint force rule either. I know pg 131 in new 5th. ed. rules is a big picture of Black Templars. We probably lost another special rule for our beloved D.E.
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