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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:27 am 
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I ask this, because when reading the pulse rifle entry i noticed it mentions Plasma, does this mean a Plasma Syphon affects pulse weapons?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:08 pm 
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Things effected by the siphon:

Pulse Rifle/Carbine/Pistol
Kroot Rifles/Guns (pulse accelerated charges)
Burst Cannons
Plasma Rifle

Basically if it's good or standard issue it is effected. Tau suffer the hardest hit from the siphon being an all shooting army that is plasma heavy.

Note: you can not use the markerlight to improve the bs of any squad within siphon range

edit: If you want to make a tau player surrender/quit/rage, this is the item you will want to take in your list.

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Straydog191 wrote:
I ask this, because when reading the pulse rifle entry i noticed it mentions Plasma, does this mean a Plasma Syphon affects pulse weapons?


it's in the Grey Knight FAQ on the GW website... it takes 5 minutes to check... all people need to do is look at the FAQ, and if that fails then ask other people..

it says what weapons it affects and what are classed as Daemons in the FAQ

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_Cus ... s_v1_1.pdf

Q: What counts as a plasma weapon for the Ulumeathi
Plasma Syphon? (p62)
A: All Plasma weapons, as well as Eldar missile
launchers firing plasma missiles, burst cannons,
starcannons, all Tau pulse weapons and any weapon
described as using ‘plasma’ as its effect or in its special
rules.

Kroot Weapons don't count

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:29 am 
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If you read about the kroot rifles under the kroot section of your codex, you'll find they use pulse technology.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:49 am 
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Straydog191 wrote:
I ask this, because when reading the pulse rifle entry i noticed it mentions Plasma, does this mean a Plasma Syphon affects pulse weapons?


Yes but the reason it affects other pulse guns and not kroot rifles it that the kroot us it to propel convestional rounds while stuff like pulse carbines and burst cannons use it to propel plasma. hope this cleared up something.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:44 am 
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Pulse = Plasma

Anything propelled by plasma would turn into plasma due to heat, therefore the rounds become small plasma charges and are effected by the plasma siphon. The "slug" would become molten slag.

edit: also if you read the faq it says all pulse weaponry/ plasma weaponry. If it USES plasma/pulse it is effected, it does not have to actually fire plasma. Kroot rifles in fluff use Pulse(therefore plasma) to propel their rounds. The faq should have spelled it out enough on kroot rifles/guns.

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Tau pulse weapons


that involves things with the word "Pulse" kroot guns are not classed as pulse weapons simply because of what the Tau have given them...]

"Pulse Weapons" -pistol, rifle and carbine... Kroot weaponry is not because it does not include the word pulse at the beginning

plus there is this wording and any weapon
described as using ‘plasma’ as its effect or in its special
rules.
kroot weaponry is not able to use plasma, and niether does it have pulse in it's name...

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:15 am 
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Uses plasma in the description, not includes the word 'plasma' in the name.


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Thanks for all the help guys, this should help going against the Tau players at my club :D

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:20 am 
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If you use the Plasma Syphon on them, just know that you should never expect to play another game against them. Pulling cheese like that is what gets people a bad reputation.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:22 am 
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I was under the impression that pulse referred to their weird guass gun/rail gun propellent system while the plasma part is only the projectile.


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Fighting 3000pts worth of Tau with 1500pts of GK, I think i'm allowed a little cheese :wink:

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Straydog191 wrote:
Fighting 3000pts worth of Tau with 1500pts of GK, I think i'm allowed a little cheese :wink:


dude your screwed :roll:

that's just cocky

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It was a 3v3 knockout competition, Both the guys on my team got knocked out and now i'm the only one left to face two teams of Tau... It's not by choice i'm facing double points..

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oooh. right... just don't under estimate tau.. my friend tried to out shoot me last week... he learnt the hard way :roll:

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