Hey fellas, I've just decided to get back into 40k (CSM's in particular). Every game night my local GW store host 1,500 point games so I'd like some criticism on my army list.
HQ Daemon Prince - 155 Wings, Warptime.
Elites 7 x Chosen - 176 4 x Multimeltas
3 x Terminators - 120 2 x Combimelta 1 x Combiflamer
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It looks like your list is seriously lacking in the AT department, so you should try to drop a few of the those Chosen and Berzerkers to try and make some room for some Obliterators. Also, try to swap out the PW on the one skull champ for a PF, you'll have much better results.
So 2 oblits are 'better' than 4 multimeltas with the possibility of rapid firing if Outflanking works well? Plus am I likely in general to face large mech armies at 1,500 points?
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Except you can't even buy Multimeltas on Chosen.
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you can give them 5 meltas or 5 plasma guns i guess? i tend to run two squads of 5 chosen depending on my oponent one squad almost always gets 5 plasmaguns but the second tends to vary
heavy vehichles that squad gets 5 meltas horde 5 flamers mix up of both 5 plasmas again
i tend to have oblits everywhere for AT but yeah
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always go to oblitz for heavy weaponry, and a note, are troops and heavy supports are the elites of chaos so really don't bother with chosen, possesed or dreads unless your going termicide. oblitz always win in any case for heavy weaponry, they are the most destructive unit in 40k at their point cost, they bring a multitude of weaponry to the game for a very cheap point cost and in groups of 3 they can easily take out a tank or a hordes of termaguants with their awesome weaponry. ....
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always go to oblitz for heavy weaponry, and a note, are troops and heavy supports are the elites of chaos so really don't bother with chosen, possesed or dreads unless your going termicide.....
Did you say that Chosen fill a heavy support slot?
Also my general point is that is two oblits who can fire 2 melta shots per turn really that much better than a squad of chosen with 5 meltaguns so can fire 5-10 shots per turn (Assuming outflanking works well) ?
I'm not saying that Oblits are crap, they really aren't. BUT I'm proposing the question is which is better quantity of firepower (Chosen) or quality of firepower (oblits)?
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no, do not go for chosen unless thats all you got. obliterators have much better heavy support because of their huge variety of weaponry and becuase htey are ALWAYS cheaper then taking a whole geared and kitted up squad of chosen, in real life too .....
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always go to oblitz for heavy weaponry, and a note, are troops and heavy supports are the elites of chaos so really don't bother with chosen, possesed or dreads unless your going termicide.....
Did you say that Chosen fill a heavy support slot?
Also my general point is that is two oblits who can fire 2 melta shots per turn really that much better than a squad of chosen with 5 meltaguns so can fire 5-10 shots per turn (Assuming outflanking works well) ?
I'm not saying that Oblits are crap, they really aren't. BUT I'm proposing the question is which is better quantity of firepower (Chosen) or quality of firepower (oblits)?
Oblits are better because they can adapt to any situation. They can be effective against hordes, meqs, and anything else. Also, how can they get ten melta shots?
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Oblits are better because they can adapt to any situation. They can be effective against hordes, meqs, and anything else. Also, how can they get ten melta shots?
10 shots because... I think I've got mixed up with the plasma gun? aha but still for ten points less you can have 5 Chosen with 5 meltaguns. I'm playing the devils advocate at the moment but for 10 points less than 2 oblits you can have 3 more S8 AP1 shots. My question is still unanswered. Is quality really that much better than quantity?
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i like chosen over oblits simply because of outflank or infiltrate in a rhino you are that much closer to the enemy move up the rhino you can either disembark and shoot the crap outa heavy units or vehichles then if it doesnt exactly work out you can assault with a decent unit though i dont really recomend assaulting if you think they can still be useful obliterators are great but they lack too much anti-horde which chosen can amke up for with flamers or squads of plasmaguns
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always go to oblitz for heavy weaponry, and a note, are troops and heavy supports are the elites of chaos so really don't bother with chosen, possesed or dreads unless your going termicide.....
Did you say that Chosen fill a heavy support slot?
Also my general point is that is two oblits who can fire 2 melta shots per turn really that much better than a squad of chosen with 5 meltaguns so can fire 5-10 shots per turn (Assuming outflanking works well) ?
I'm not saying that Oblits are crap, they really aren't. BUT I'm proposing the question is which is better quantity of firepower (Chosen) or quality of firepower (oblits)?
If you read my more recent post that I said I was mixing that up with Plasma guns. But regardless you get 3 more S8 AP1 shots than 2 oblits for 10 points less.
All I am saying is quantity better than quality in terms of shots?
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