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 Post subject: Huge CSM Rumor Dump
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:08 am 
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Check it out. The QnA is over now, but all the questions and answers are posted in the comments. I'm sure eventually someone will sort it all out. Here's some notes...

Cultists are 4 points a piece, 10-30 per squad. Dark Apostles apparently give them something special when they're joined. Typhus makes them Zombies, which gives them FnP, but they can't be joined by characters.

Noise Marines get Salvo Sonic Blasters at 36" range. Noise Champions get a whip that makes it impossible to refuse challenges.

Khorne Berzerkers get 5 attacks at str 5 ap 5 on the charge, and can take two-handed chain axes that act like Chain Fists. Skull Champion can be given a Collar that gives them a Deny the Witch on a 5+.

Thousand Sons have a Sorcerer built into the cost that gets a free roll on the power charts. Bolters get Soul Blaze.

Plague Marines can now throw their Blight Grenades to force opponents to move as if through difficult terrain, or worse.

Dreads can be marked. Bikers are about the same. Standard Chaos Marines and Cultists are the only troops. Chaos Marines can take a special weapon per 5 models.

You can give a unit a Mark and a different Icon (Mark of Khorne, Icon of Nurgle). The cost of the Icon goes up by 20 points if the unit is already Marked. Terminator marks and icons cost about 50% more.

Defiler gets Daemon rules (+5 inv, Fear) with 4 Hull Points.

Seige daemon engine gets a melta blast shot.

Obliterators are Heavy, Maulers (cc oblits) are Elites and have T5.

Dedicated transports get the same mark as the squad they're bought with for free.

New Land Raider Variant holds 16 models and can ram fortifications, allowing unit within to assault INTO the fortification. Old Land Raider has capacity of 12 now.

Ahriman is Mastery Level 4 and has LOTS of Psychic potential. He can choose from any lore.

Kharn the Betrayer has 8 attacks on the charge at initiative 5.

The Flyer is AV 12/11/10, is in the Fast Attack, and is apparently awesome at taking down other Zooming fliers. There is apparently no other flier in the Codex.

No new Fortifications, but there's a special Chaos upgrade that we can give to Fortifications.

That's all I got. Read through the post for more!


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 Post subject: Re: Huge CSM Rumor Dump
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:10 am 
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Hells yeah chaos like a boss 8) Looks lke me deciding to take a Word Bearers force is going to be very viable now :D

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 Post subject: Re: Huge CSM Rumor Dump
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I like some of what I am seeing - the basic marines are cheap. I love cheap troops but I think GW will try and push loads of cult marines.

the trouble with these answers is the fact I can't see many AP 2 weapons :/
but khorne berserker's are going to be beasts :D

I can't wait to kill some orks/guard


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I saw that a couple of Days ago now I want the CSM dex now more than ever from this artile and from a reacent article Naftka posted up (about a interview/event thingy) and when Phil Kelly finishes Writting this one apparently he will be Writting the Tyranid one as well (implied on Open Day (also posted on Faitte 21)2) Meaning all my armies will be using codes from my favourite codex writer. Phil Kelly FTW :D :D :D :D . I WANT THE CSM DEX NOW IM SO IMPATIANT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO SHOW MY EXCITEMENT ........ WAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!! :mrgreen:

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I am so pumped too! Just the fact that Khorne Berzerkers will be viable again, I can field all 130 of mine. I always found they where way too many pts for not alot and in combat they weren't great for there points. Im also happy about cultists, but sad :( that there is no Warsmith HQ, just some dark techmarine in the elites slot.

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 Post subject: Re: Huge CSM Rumor Dump
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zombies?

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BewareOfTom wrote:
zombies?

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Yes that is so cool I can't wait to see the actual rules in the codex and in detail. I could make a zombie apocalypse :mrgreen: .

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 Post subject: Re: Huge CSM Rumor Dump
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well I'm gunna buy that kit thats 100 zombies for $14 lol, sure their like 1/3 on an inch tall but meh :3

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BewareOfTom wrote:
well I'm gunna buy that kit thats 100 zombies for $14 lol, sure their like 1/3 on an inch tall but meh :3


Yea and there so cheap you can just send wave in and they die but you don't really care because up you have like a million more. I can't wait for cultists. And how come you can buy 100 zombies for $14? Rumoured price?

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no, its for some cheap board game.... almost as cheap as I am! (their so cheap their all the same pose and glow in the dark)

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BewareOfTom wrote:
no, its for some cheap board game.... almost as cheap as I am! (their so cheap their all the same pose and glow in the dark)


Oh ok. Can you post a link to pics of these models I want to see how they look.

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I saw that a couple of Days ago now I want the CSM dex now more than ever from this artile and from a reacent article Naftka posted up (about a interview/event thingy) and when Phil Kelly finishes Writting this one apparently he will be Writting the Tyranid one as well (implied on Open Day (also posted on Faitte 21)2) Meaning all my armies will be using codes from my favourite codex writer. Phil Kelly FTW :D :D :D :D . I WANT THE CSM DEX NOW IM SO IMPATIANT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO SHOW MY EXCITEMENT ........ WAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!! :mrgreen:


Phil Kelly wrote the current Tyranid Codex. He also wrote the current Eldar, Ork, Space Wolf, and Dark Eldar dexes.

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I like some of what I am seeing - the basic marines are cheap. I love cheap troops but I think GW will try and push loads of cult marines.

the trouble with these answers is the fact I can't see many AP 2 weapons :/
but khorne berserker's are going to be beasts :D

I can't wait to kill some orks/guard


There's going to be a lot of playability out of all the units, since Phil Kelly is writing it. You're going to see a lot of different armies. Some will be Undivided, some will be mono-god or dual-god, and some will take the best out of each slot in the FOC.

According to the poster, going without marks gets you a lot of bodies that you can put on the table. As soon as you start going with Cult marines or marks or icons, things get expensive. He said you could have a 10-man squad of Chaos Marines cost less than a Tac squad, but with upgrades you could easily make that same 10 man squad 400 points.


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Robin Cruddace wrote the nid codex not Phil Kelly.

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Yea, Phil Kelly wrote the previous nid codex not the current one.

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