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leader for army of the dead!

Postby gorefangz » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:49 pm

ok so i have come across an army of the dead with a bunch of guys, and now with the new sourcebooks, my local gw has more people playingallowing me to get more into the game of lotr. so my question, is who should i get to lead my army? i have a king of the dead, but i can only have 12 models or else i need another hero or champ to lead. so basically what im wondering, is should i get imrahil to lead the army so it becomes legal list? i hear he is good. but i havnt really heard very much about why. please enlighten me. or if you think that another guy would be better to leead, also tell me why. im not playing war of the ring so i dont really care how good he is in that game. and also its 500 and 750 point lists that i need him for. i have1 king, 7 riders, 18 warriors with sword/axe & sheilds and 6 with spears & shields. please tell me what heroes i should use and why, and maybe give me a list if you can.
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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby Loco9443 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:17 pm

As they are part of the Kingdoms of Men I would say the obvious is Aragorn. Also im not 100% sure about this but I think the Army of the Dead Banner Bearer counts as a Hero so you could get a few of those.
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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby gorefangz » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:04 pm

Loco9443 wrote:As they are part of the Kingdoms of Men I would say the obvious is Aragorn. Also im not 100% sure about this but I think the Army of the Dead Banner Bearer counts as a Hero so you could get a few of those.


ok so looks like i know a bit more than you on this topic, and i know almost nothing. aragorn is in kingdoms of men, yes. but he is part of gondor not the fiefdoms. so he cant lead a warband. i can take him but i still need enough heroes to be able to lead all the models. although, i could have him becauuse the amount of points that he is, i probably would only have him the king of the dead and a few warriors of the dead. so it would be legal. but anyway, the banner guy, hes just another warrior, not a champian. its just 25 points and you get a banner on a guy. i wish it was a champion, it would make this so much easier.

so please, people who know the army book well and maybe have some expierience playing as them or against them, please help me with a list and a good hero to lead them.

ps if i was misinformed about the fact that just in the same sourcebook isnt enough, please tell me, (ie army of the dead [fiefdoms] has to be lead by another hero of the fiefdoms, not just the same book [kingdoms of men]. so aragorn cant leed the army.)
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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby EmoAngels » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:19 pm

I find that another gr8 hero to lead the fiefdoms is price imrahil, hes awesome because he has the same stats are Aragorn but a higher defence and he is 40 ish points less. Now considering that you are using army of the dead taking Imrahil might be an issue because your going to have a very small army and if you take him its going to be even smaller. Yet I would take Imrahil over king of the dead most days. You might want to consider Using forlong that fat, he's awesome for his points, strength 5 defence 6. Thats really good for 75 less thanImrahil.Personally I find that king of the dead is only good when pared with a hero with fight 6. This is because his low fight means that even tho he can kill a troll no sweat its the roll that see who wins really hurts him so you need a combat character to help him out.
maybe a 500 point list would look something like this:
Price Imrahil of Dol Amroth-135

King of the dead-100

Amy of the Dead (6)-102
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shields

Army of the Dead (7)-112
shields

Army of the Dead(1)-40
banner

If you wanted to in this list you could drop the banner(i wouldn't) and king of the dead to get forlong the fat and some more guys. I have left out the riders in this list because the just cost to much for lower point game.This would be a good list to start out with because you wouldn't have to buy much in order to play. If you want to bump it up to 750 I would recommend getting some swan knights of dol amaroth thier probably one of the best human units in the game. Hope this has helped.

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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby gorefangz » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:04 pm

thank you very much. haha now i have to choose between imrahil and the fatty to lead, cause i dont really want to buy both right away. anyway, helped a lot. thank you

can you just tell me what imrahil does, like whyy do pople say hes really good? does he have any good rules, what do they do?
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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby EmoAngels » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:50 am

The reason why lots of ppl like Imrahil is because of his fantastic statline (can't say specifics but same as Aragorns with a higher defence) and because he is quite cheap for what he can do. He also counts as a banner for Swan Knights of Dol Amaroth. Imrahil really helps an army of the dead army becuase all dead guys have quite a low fight including king of the dead. I would personally get Imrahil over forlong because of his better statline. Tho forlong can hold his own in combat.

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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby Loco9443 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:30 am

gorefangz wrote:ps if i was misinformed about the fact that just in the same sourcebook isnt enough, please tell me, (ie army of the dead [fiefdoms] has to be lead by another hero of the fiefdoms, not just the same book [kingdoms of men]. so aragorn cant leed the army.)


I believe the whole idea of putting them in one source book was so that you could use any of the units in it. Otherwise the whole 1 hero to so many troops would just be stupid.
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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby gorefangz » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:08 pm

so aragorn can or cant lead a warband of the dead?
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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby respect92 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:09 am

He cant.

Think like this, would worriors of minas tirith follow a normal rohan captain?
Would rohan warriors follow arathorn, that they dont even know who he is?:)

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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby gorefangz » Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:58 pm

respect92 wrote:He cant.

Think like this, would worriors of minas tirith follow a normal rohan captain?
Would rohan warriors follow arathorn, that they dont even know who he is?:)

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ok thank you for a straight answer. i didnt think so but i just wanted to make sure. but it would make sense if aragorn could lead them, or at least aragorn king of gondor. i get why strider wouldnt, but seriously, the king of gondor should.

just saying, rohan warriors probably would know arathorn. he was the king of gondor. they just wouldnt follow him into battle withought their own leader.
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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby respect92 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:09 pm

Arathorn have not been king of gondor, he is Chieftain(like king) of the dunadain.

If I was you, I would take Captains of Dol Amroth and paint them like you paint the warriors of the dead.

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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby gorefangz » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:27 pm

thats what i was thinking, but id probably paint it normally. just cause if i ever do start another army, im not stuck with dead guys.

and (not saying your wrong) how is aragorn the rightful kingaf gondor if his father wasa only a chieftain? (serious question)
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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby respect92 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:17 am

Because Isildur and Elendil is Aragorn's ancestors.

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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby Loco9443 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:59 am

ok the rule is that you can only have 12 warriors from any specific part of the sourcebook. so army of the dead has to have feifdoms heroes. but, if you have enough heroes, you can take another good hero. and he would just count as his own warband. so in a 750 list, i have 17 warriors, 7 riders, (24 warriors from fiefdoms) and a king of the dead and imrahil. so i have 2 heroes and 24 warriors. so now if i have extra points, i can put in another good hero from any book.
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Re: leader for army of the dead!

Postby gorefangz » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:54 pm

you do know that that was me who said that right. on your youtube vid for boromir.
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