Outflanking Tervigons Whaaaa!?, your Thoughts?

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Outflanking Tervigons Whaaaa!?, your Thoughts?

Postby jmaddux » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:25 pm

The Idea is to Outflank a Tervigon, using the Hive Tyrant Hive Commander. Taking the Tervigon as a troop and selecting it to outflank.

Could this be a good trick? or could it be a costly move?

AND! If you take 2 Tervigons and 2 Hive Tyrants with Hive Commander, are you able to select both tervigons as Outflanking units? This would be very points heavy, but I would still like to know the ruling (the +1 to res rolls dont stack, but does the other rule still apply).

Just think about it, a Tervigon outflanking close to the other objective, spitting out 8-16 gants and able to assault still.... or just outflank into a unit to ty that unit up (maybe a missle unit) or vehicle.
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Re: Outflanking Tervigons Whaaaa!?, your Thoughts?

Postby Crusherfex » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:08 pm

This idea isn't new :lol: but it still is a solid idea.

However, I would prefer to outflank Hormagaunts over fat meaty slow beasts.
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Re: Outflanking Tervigons Whaaaa!?, your Thoughts?

Postby BewareOfTom » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:12 pm

I wanna see someone do this and it totally back fires on them XD

like it only spawns 3 gaunts, and gets FW'd right away :P
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Re: Outflanking Tervigons Whaaaa!?, your Thoughts?

Postby TyrantEatos » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:54 pm

I do this trick all the time just to get the rest of the army closer, but the Tervigon cant spawn that turn.
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Re: Outflanking Tervigons Whaaaa!?, your Thoughts?

Postby FotoGuy » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:03 am

It is a nifty idea. You can only outflank one troops though =(

But, it forces your opponent to reasess his situation right away. :D

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Re: Outflanking Tervigons Whaaaa!?, your Thoughts?

Postby jmaddux » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:03 am

TyrantEatos wrote:I do this trick all the time just to get the rest of the army closer, but the Tervigon cant spawn that turn.


why cant it? I never heard it couldnt befor. And could you do 2 units of Hormagaunts or Tervigons with 2 Hive Tyrants?
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Re: Outflanking Tervigons Whaaaa!?, your Thoughts?

Postby micksamaximus » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:27 am

why cant it? I never heard it couldnt befor. And could you do 2 units of Hormagaunts or Tervigons with 2 Hive Tyrants?


Because it spawns Termagants in the movement phase before it has moved, so that's before it comes on the board. With regard to being able to outflank 2 units due to having 2 Tyrants, the FAQ has addressed this and you can't.
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Re: Outflanking Tervigons Whaaaa!?, your Thoughts?

Postby jmaddux » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:47 am

That sucks.....
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Re: Outflanking Tervigons Whaaaa!?, your Thoughts?

Postby Virideon » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:12 am

jmaddux wrote:AND! If you take 2 Tervigons and 2 Hive Tyrants with Hive Commander, are you able to select both tervigons as Outflanking units? This would be very points heavy, but I would still like to know the ruling (the +1 to res rolls dont stack, but does the other rule still apply).


You can only ever outflank 1 unit with hive commander, even if you have 2 tyrants with the ability.

I'll also add that the +1 to reserve rolls from 2 hive commander abilities doesn't stack either. So, if you're eldar, you can pay 140pts for 2 Autarchs, and their bonuses to reserve rolls will stack without issue. On the other hand, a nid player can spend almost 400pts on two overpriced-tyrants with hive commander, and get no bonus whatsoever from the second one.

Basically, it's because GW hates nids, and enjoys making faqs that could be replaced with this: http://www.rockbymail.com/ekmps/shops/rockbymail/images/middle-finger-poster-flag-6185-p.jpg.

micksamaximus wrote:Because it spawns Termagants in the movement phase before it has moved, so that's before it comes on the board.


This is the main reason I wouldn't outflank a tervigon. If it could spawn gaunts, hen I'd definatly consider doing so.


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