Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

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Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by Own3d_U2 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:08 am

So i have a 1400 point match in 5 hours vs a friend of mine who plays IG

heres the catch

I have NEVER played against an IG player. Im looking for advice as to what to bring to the field. ill post an army list when im done with it

So HELP!
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by crysbat » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:10 am

don't tailor your lists, it's bad for your reputation, bring a standard list, raiders, blood brides e.t.c, i'll give you advice of using your anti tank on raiders and ravagers and using warriors to be troops e.t.c
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by Own3d_U2 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:14 am

crysbat wrote:don't tailor your lists
So your saying bring a knife to a gun fight?
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by crysbat » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:21 am

Own3d_U2 wrote:
crysbat wrote:don't tailor your lists
So your saying bring a knife to a gun fight?
that's like saying bring wyches against imperial guard.

yes.
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by Own3d_U2 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:24 am

crysbat wrote:
Own3d_U2 wrote:
crysbat wrote:don't tailor your lists
So your saying bring a knife to a gun fight?
that's like saying bring wyches against imperial guard.

yes.
touche...

still, i know this guys gonna be tailoring, I've seen him play, so id still appreciate some advice
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by crysbat » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:36 am

well if he's tailoring then bring the most cheesy list possible, let's see what i can do:

hq should be dedicated to melee along with a dedicated melee squad (i'd recommend the standard archon set up with some incubi, i've seen incubi against guard and i can guarantee you it isn't a pretty sight for the guardsmen)

elites should be blood brides and incubi, statistically blood brides will wreak havoc among guardsmen's lines and i've seen incubi wreak havoc among guardsmen (especially when they have a klaivex with demiklaives), in this scenario give your bloodbrides hydra gauntlets, more attacks will rip through infantry platoons, but they'll last long enough for you to get the consolidation on his turn, just watch out if he's playing veterans (although if he's tailouring i'd expect a gunline esque army and mass infantry)

capture objectives with warriors, have a squad with a dark lance for the home objective and ones with splinter cannons for the enemy objectives.

fast attack is reavers if you can fit them in.

heavy support, a ravager to pop open any leman russ he may be fielding and to eliminate any wall of steel he might have, if you think he'll bring a really big wall of steel, 2 ravagers, both with pure dark lances, no question.

now the most important thing is, go first, no matter what with this army (ESPECIALLY against guard) you're going to want to go first so you can pop open his vehicles and cripple his more powerful stuff.
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by Own3d_U2 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:50 am

I think this is the Final Version

CC Archon
-agonizer
-Ghost plate
-combat drugs
-Shadow field

ancient Haemonculus
-Hex Rifle
-Webway portal

Haemonculus
-Hex Rifle

Haemonculus
-Hex Rifle

10 Warriors
-blaster
-splintercannon
--sybarite

10 Warriors
-blaster
-splintercannon
--sybarite

9 Trueborn (with the HQ)
-2 splinter cannons
-7 shard carbines
---Raider
---Night shields
---Flicker fields
---splinter racks

3 Reavers
-Heat lance
-cluster caltrops

6 scourges
-2 Haywire Blasters

Ravager
-Nightsheild
-Flickerfield

2 Beast masters
-2 clawed fiends
-4 razorwing flocks
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by crysbat » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:55 am

Own3d_U2 wrote:Alright, well before i read your advice here was my list

CC Archon
-huskblase
-Ghost plate
-combat drugs
-Soul Trap
-Shadow field

husk blade and soul trap are an expensive combo and wont come in handy until very large games

10 Warriors
-blaster
-splintercannon
--sybarite
--agonizer
--Blast pistol
--Ghost Plate
sybarite should be blank

10 Warriors
-blaster
-splintercannon
--sybarite
--agonizer
--Blast pistol
--Ghost plate
as above

9 Trueborn (with the HQ)
-2 shreaders
-2 Dark lances
-4 shard carbines
--Dracon
--Agonizer
--Blast pistol
--ghost plate
drop the dark lances and take more shard carbines instead


3 Reavers
-Heat lance
-cluster caltrops
i'm against the heat lance, but it looks ok

5 hellions
-hellarch
these guys'll get ripped to pieces, drop them

6 scourges
-2 blasters
--solarite
--Blast pistol
--agonizer
don't buy a solarite

Ravager
-Nightsheild
-Flickerfield
looks solid
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by Own3d_U2 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:58 am

Alright. Would you recommend cheep web way portal homonculus to fill the point gap?
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by crysbat » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:02 pm

hex-monc, always hex-monc
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by Own3d_U2 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:08 pm

alright i edited the list
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by crysbat » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:16 pm

Own3d_U2 wrote:Alright, how bout this?

CC Archon
-agonizer
-Ghost plate
-combat drugs
-Shadow field
looks solid, but he should really have a cc squad to go with (incubi, they're ace, trust me)

ancient Haemonculus
-Hex Rifle
-Webway portal
ace, but what's coming through the portal?

Haemonculus
-Hex Rifle
ace

Haemonculus
-Hex Rifle
ace

10 Warriors
-blaster
-splintercannon
--sybarite
looks good

10 Warriors
-blaster
-splintercannon
--sybarite
looks good

9 Trueborn (with the HQ)
-2 shreaders
-6 shard carbines
--Dracon
--Agonizer
--Blast pistol
--ghost plate
---Raider
---Night shields
---Flicker fields
i forgot to mention last time to scrap the dracon, it's jsut a sybarite and it's better to have another shooting attack, i'd also say drop the shredders due to personal preference, but that's your choice more than mine

3 Reavers
-Heat lance
-cluster caltrops
as before

6 scourges
-2 blasters

Ravager
-Nightsheild
-Flickerfield
all in all i'd say drop the ancient monk for some incubi with a venom, that's all i can think of right now, getting into melee with guard will rip them to pieces and incubi (in my opinion) are our best melee unit in the elites section.
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by BoyMac » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:24 pm

I don't know much about the new Dark Eldar in terms of tactics but I would bring a more combat based army against guard. There is no way you can out-shoot them. A few lances would be good for the ruses though.
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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by favoredctan » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:40 pm

scourges with haywire blasters=love.
~2kish pts Necrons!
~2k Daemons

If you're worrying about phase out, then buy the new codex!

Warrior Spam? it may be acceptable come Nov 5th. A second chance to not be terrible!

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Re: Game in 5 hours! need advice quick!

Post by Own3d_U2 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:49 pm

The problem with incubi is that i actually dont have any, i also lack wyches.

i was most likely gonna run the true born squad with the archon in the raider.

The webway gate is purely for the sake of having a webway gate, nothing Messes with the enemy more than a well placed gate next to an objective. also, a single gate allows me to choose what trys to come in on what turn, and i find them useful.

so far my plan is to run my warriors with a homonculus so they gain feel no pain, spearhead my attack with my HQ's squad in the raider and uses the other units as niche support. the web way is a nice way to bring any unit to the front line fast. still
lemme see if i can milk this list some more.
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