WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

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WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by mrazek22 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:55 pm

Post em here: Do you have a crazy idea, crazy like a fox? Just crazy enough to work? Too crazy to talk about?

Here's a few starters:

1. Mortar/HB teams make excellent Anti-charge walls. For under under 40 points, you are getting essentially a 6 wound unit that can do a heck of a lot of damage to anything before it gets close enough to take it down.

2. Tempestus Command Squads kitted out of GL's make impromptu teleporting Mortar teams! Same amount of shots, but hitting on 3s for 15 more points! Great for harassing rear guard units.

3. Slaneshi Daemonnettes make for better moral boosters than alcohol and Guardsman's Uplifting Primer!

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by Signet-Powers » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:48 pm

1) Always shoot with your Tanks/Artillery/Vehicles first, they do the most damage and a single Tank can lower MEQ squads to the point were a cheap infantry squad can reliably shoot, charge and wipe it.

2) Be super-aggresive with transports if you're going primarily mechanised. They can't do much damage but they're hard to kill so you can litteraly block off sections of the board, or trap some units against terrain (thanks to the 1" rule).

3) Bullygryn Bodyguard with slabshield and a free deathmask for T5, 2+, 2++ and 6W.

4) Lord Commissar with multiple Relics is a close combat monstah!

5) Vostroyans get a +1 to hit stratagem (as I've mentioned many times). This is the best strategum for tanks. Use it on fully decked out Executioners as much as possible for extra accuracy and no Overheating ever.

6) For the non-guard players, you can actually outshoot Guard on a unit vs unit basis, just not in a Gunline battle. So try to use some cheap expendable units (ie:bait) to section off parts of the Guard army piece-meal from each other and overwhelm one piece at a time.
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3. Slaneshi Daemonnettes make for better moral boosters than alcohol and Guardsman's Uplifting Primer!
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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by mrazek22 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:45 pm

Blam?

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by mrazek22 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:53 pm

Here's another one! Cultists, Guardsmen, boyz, etc: these are cheap units, made of tissue paper. But surprisingly difficult to take the unit off the board in one turn without over-dedication of resources. IE: 3x SM squads all firing on one unit. For kill based objectives, go for single units that you can 100% take off the board without a TON of resources. That Rhino is all alone, and in range of your Lascannons. TAKE IT DOWN.

CP is more worthless than people think. Don't wait to use it on some super critical moment that may never come and end the game with 3-5 points left over. BURN THEM LIKE PROSPERIAN PEASANTS!!!

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by mrazek22 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:24 pm

I am setting up a Scion army, with Ultramarines as my blocking force. The meatshield protecting my valuable Scions will be the Imperium's Bluest. Their job is to die in melee while my Scions rake the backfield. I am actually setting this up as we speak.

6x 5 man Scion squads with 2 plasmas and a vox
2x Primes with Command Rods and Power Fists
2x Command squads with plasma and Meltas
2x Taurox Primes with Gatlings and HSVGs
1x Bullgryn Squad

Blocking force

2x Captains
4x Tactical Squads with Plasmas
2x Whirlwinds

COME AT ME BRO

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by Ronin » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:40 pm

Why 2 Captains? You could run one as a lieutenant so you get rerolls on hits and wounds. Tactical squads also aren't great tanks or good at melee. Just throwing that experience out there lol. Are they 10 man squads or 5 man? I'm not entirely sure how the ultramarines would synergize with the scions considering the latter deep strike or are mounted in transports which would leave the ultramarines behind. Inceptors, assault marines, reivers, and terminators would probably make better screening units for the scions.

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by Signet-Powers » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:00 pm

Yeah they aren't the best screening units, and Scions aren't ranged enough for the backfield at all.

There's also a lack of heavy weapons in that list, so you may really struggle against a vehicle heavy army. What points are you playing at? I assume 1,500?

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by Ronin » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:16 pm

Plasmas could be anti tank. Good rate of fire and multi damage is good for chipping away at wounds and it's always disheartening to see your opponent get the occasional lucky save against a lascannon. With plasma, they're always going to fail at least one save.

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by Marit Lage » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:43 pm

Signet, you should know better than to try and put multiple relics on a single character.


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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by Ronin » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:45 pm

Marit Lage wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:43 pm
Signet, you should know better than to try and put multiple relics on a single character.


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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by Marit Lage » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:32 pm

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by Signet-Powers » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:42 pm

Ronin wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:16 pm
Plasmas could be anti tank.
Not from the backfield.

Marit Lage wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:43 pm
Signet, you should know better than to try and put multiple relics on a single character.
What? That's not in the rules, I can take more than o-

*re-checks codex*

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by Ronin » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:52 pm

By backfield, I think he means they're going to hit the backfield of the opponent which is their deployment zone.

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by mrazek22 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:00 am

Ronin is correct. Teleport into the enemy's back field and sow havoc. And the Marines are literally just there as a joke. Instead of Guardsmen laying down their lives, it's time the Astartes had a turn.

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Re: WILD AND CRAZY IDEAS

Post by Signet-Powers » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:01 pm

mrazek22 wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:00 am
Ronin is correct. Teleport into the enemy's back field and sow havoc. And the Marines are literally just there as a joke. Instead of Guardsmen laying down their lives, it's time the Astartes had a turn.
Ah well that's a much beter plan than what i thought you were saying. Still I do think some different types of marines might be better. Primaris Intercessors are more survivable point for point and would make a nice contrast next to scions with their size.

You also have Hellblasters if you really wanna o down the plasma route, or if you really want tacticals consider maybe Devestators instead for their Lascannon/Missiles/Heavy bolters.
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also i realise that I may have come across condescending in my posts yesterday, I apoligise for that :oops:

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