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3D-printing miniatures may be viable 'cause of innovation

Post by slaughtergames » Fri May 04, 2012 2:54 pm

hey Matt/other,

I was watching the news this evening, and it covered an innovation in 3d-printing.
it turns out that quite some companies are 3d-printing rather than molding, including the german Rapid Shape®, and Morris Technologies from Cincinnati. Also, the TNO eindhoven ("yndhoavn") has developed a desktop 3d printer, that can print 9 centimeters of resin an hour.

I'm not sure whether how much slower that is than molding, (if it is at all) but it should be cheaper, as you don't need material for sprues. also, we don't get clunky metal models! (eventhough metal and even titanium can be 3d-printed)

I'd like to conclude by saying that Matt should look into this, as the economist stated in an article (oh darn don't make me post a link :P) that 3d-printing might be the third industrial revolution, meaning it has lots o' potential. Now we like potential, don't we?
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Re: 3D-printing miniatures may be viable 'cause of innovation

Post by adin267 » Fri May 04, 2012 4:38 pm

I agree i belive there was an excellent 3d Printing guy who would like to help and has already made some models based of the X'lanthos Concept art here is his portfolio http://andreatarabella.blogspot.it/
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http://www.shapeways.com/shops/tarum
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http://www.miniwargaming.com/forum/view ... 16&t=73661
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Post by Tarum » Sat May 05, 2012 5:02 am

adin267 wrote:I agree i belive there was an excellent 3d Printing guy who would like to help and has already made some models based of the X'lanthos Concept art here is his portfolio http://andreatarabella.blogspot.it/
His Shop
http://www.shapeways.com/shops/tarum
And his forum post
http://www.miniwargaming.com/forum/view ... 16&t=73661
Thank you!
I would say that 3d printers are slow (9 cm per hour), but you can set up 100 miniatures in a time, no matter the surface area :) and the cost is less if you print many miniatures togheter.

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Post by Tarum » Sat May 05, 2012 11:03 am

You have to see this :)
very very very ultra detailed material!
http://lightbeam3d.com/gallery.html
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Re: 3D-printing miniatures may be viable 'cause of innovation

Post by slaughtergames » Sat May 05, 2012 12:00 pm

hmm, looks interesting tarum, but i don't immediately see the very^3 ultra detailed models you referred to? can you say which one is really detailed?
and, on side note, those are, for the most part, quite a bit bigger than 28mm heroic
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Post by Tarum » Sat May 05, 2012 6:32 pm

The first image of the third line, A hand with some 24mm characters. The detail depends from the sculpting work, but you can see that the quality of the resin is high, smooth surface instead of rough noisy surface, and straight edges. I printe don bad material and you cannot print 24mm figure with fingers :-) i`m sure that with that printing quality you will play with miniatures that have the same quality of my 3d renders
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Post by wasaw47 » Sun May 06, 2012 10:09 am

i agree this is something matt should have a look at, especially if it ends up being less expensive to produce, as i can imagine the technology for 3d printing will get better and faster as time goes on.

also nice job on the xlanthos 3d sculpts tarum :D its not perfect but close ;)

i also like the "scifiguy" from http://lightbeam3d.com/gallery.html (image 24/79), although i would change a bit of the armor detail and the helmet. still its good concept art.

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Post by slaughtergames » Sun May 06, 2012 4:37 pm

@tarum: aah, i see what you mean.. yes they are nice

@wasaw47: i think tarum removed some detail because someone said you can't mold with as much detail as tarum put into it :) so he made them less detailed

ugh, edit nr.2:
i suddenly remembered something else that the news article mentioned: 3d-printed models don't need by far as much assembly. which i hate to say, because assembling, and especially posing are pretty fun! to clarify with an example: a molded toy-car would be about 20 parts. the 3d-printed one just 1 part. i actually liked the direction of the topic, but i thought "let's be honest here" :?
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Post by Tarum » Sun May 06, 2012 9:11 pm

slaughtergames wrote:@tarum: aah, i see what you mean.. yes they are nice

@wasaw47: i think tarum removed some detail because someone said you can't mold with as much detail as tarum put into it :) so he made them less detailed

ugh, edit nr.2:
i suddenly remembered something else that the news article mentioned: 3d-printed models don't need by far as much assembly. which i hate to say, because assembling, and especially posing are pretty fun! to clarify with an example: a molded toy-car would be about 20 parts. the 3d-printed one just 1 part. i actually liked the direction of the topic, but i thought "let's be honest here" :?
if i sculpt separated pieces, the printer print separated object :-) i can sculpt legs, torso, head and arms if matt ask me, no problems :-D
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Re: 3D-printing miniatures may be viable 'cause of innovation

Post by slaughtergames » Mon May 07, 2012 10:41 am

but that drives the cost back up again right?, but then you would be paying for that when molding anyway..
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Re: 3D-printing miniatures may be viable 'cause of innovation

Post by Vexxus » Mon May 07, 2012 6:21 pm

WOW those 3D X'Lanthos look amazing.

I think they are made too slowly for Matt/MWG to produce mass quantities but I can hardly wait for this technology to go mainstream!

Very impressive.

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Re: 3D-printing miniatures may be viable 'cause of innovation

Post by azzerath » Tue May 08, 2012 2:36 pm

While the resolution is fantastic, unfortunately for lightbeam3d they are very expensive. Hop over to the pricing tab and take a look. Shame too, they look fantastic.

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