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Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by BigAxeGod » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:15 pm

Hey guys. I'm playing in a 3v3 friendly game next Thursday. It's 800pts per person. I was just wondering if anyone had any sample lists?
I have at my disposal:
-1 firebelly
-6 ogres
-4 leadbelchers
-5 ironguts
-1 hunter
-1 stonehorn

Any help would be great. Although I know it's cheap but I'd quite like to bring my new stonehorn, so lists involving him would be favoured :)
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by Honourblade » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:22 pm

Firebelly - Great Weapon

5x Iron Guts - Full Command

4 Leadbelchers

Stonehorn - harpoon

That is if you really want to run your Stonehorn, it is a good unit though, should go well so long as its not a Cannon or KB heavy army, good to see that you stuck with the ogres mate!
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by BigAxeGod » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:01 pm

Thank you very much for all the advice.

And yeah I do realise that the stonehorn is a bit overkill in such a low points game. I mostly just want an excuse to use it. I can't wait to see the looks on the other players' faces when they see the enormous monster.

Should I put the firebelly with the ironguts or the leadbelchers?
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Post by BigAxeGod » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:37 pm

Also what should I have on the firebelly level-wise and upgrades-wise?
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by ParanoidEngineer » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:30 am

Firebellies are only really needed for Fireball, you can leave him level 1 with a Great Weapon, maybe find room for a Dispel Scroll if someone brings a powerful mage.
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by BigAxeGod » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:55 am

Ah ok so I guess I should field him with the Ironguts then so he is in range to use his firebreath?
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by BigAxeGod » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:40 am

Yup just checked out that list. seems to work fine. I can let you guys know how it runs afterwards. Though I'm not hoping for much. It will be my first real game.
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by TigerDave » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:45 pm

That's a pretty decent list. If you ever find the points, a trick I like to use on the Firebelly is to give him the Ruby Ring. One way or another, you're almost guaranteed to get at least one fireball off per turn - one via ring and one via spell. If you get both off, even better from the Lore of Fire synergy!

Replacing the Hunter with Sabretusks COULD be considered, but to be honest, Ogres move so fast you almost don't need redirectors. Still, having highly mobile cats running around can be fun, run as solos or in groups. At this points level I think you're good as is.

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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by BigAxeGod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:02 am

Well I'm not planning on taking the hunter at 800pts anyway but I'll keep that in mind for bigger games :)
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by BigAxeGod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:08 am

Anyone got any advice on what I should buy next? I'm thinking maybe a tyrant and possibly a set of 3 yhetees (which I will be proxying with skin wolves from forgeworld)
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by ParanoidEngineer » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:28 pm

You can't go wrong with Mournfang, and a Slaughtermaster will pay dividends for you as games get larger. A few more Ogres and Ironguts is advisable, and for some serious ranged punch an Ironblaster will never let you down. A BSB conversion is also a good idea, as Ogres are very prone to panicking when you least expect.
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by BigAxeGod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:01 pm

Ok I think mournfang and slaughter master will definitely be top priority. Then probably another battalion and maybe an iron blaster :D
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by Stanfar » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:06 pm

Umm... Well about your list Honourblade it is illigal. :D
You can't bring stonehorn in 800pts list since you're only allow bring 200pts of rare choices and stonehorn is 250pts

I would use a list like this:

Firebelly
- Lvl 1, Great weapon
- Ruby ring of Ruin
- Dispel scroll

5 Irongut
-Standard bearer, musician

6 Ogres
-ironfists
- Standard bearer, musician

4 Leadbelchers

798pts total

Otherwise you're going to need that bsb as you need that re-roll ability as ogres Ld isn't great...
Also sabertusk for warmachine hunting and tyrant/slaughtermaster as that pick is up to you.
Ironblasters are golden so you are going to need those and mournfang are also sweet. ;)
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by BigAxeGod » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:51 pm

As it was a friendly game we decided it was ok to bring the Stonehorn (definitely not the best choice, but fun anyway).

Me and a fellow Ogre player ran 800pts each against High Elves and Vampire counts. Sadly my Stonehorn was run off the board by a group of Black Knights. Luckily the other ogre player chose a Hunter mounted on Stonehorn (even more illegal I know, but again fun as hell) which made up for mine's failings.

While my ironguts and leddies hit well enough but I needed to make sure I was the one making the charges, not receiving them. Eventually I got overrun by constantly regenerating undead.

My Firebelly didn't cast a single successful fireball all game, I think he punched to death (re-death?) about 5 skeletons and firebreathed a further 6, hardly an impressive feat :P

Lessons learned:
-If I'm gonna bother using magic I should go hard or go home. Lvl1 fireballs are always gonna be dispelled if the opponent has any half-decent magic at all.
-bring a BSB (I've got a nicely kitbashed one ready to use).
-Be the charger, not the chargee!
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Re: Ogre 800pts help please?

Post by ParanoidEngineer » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:17 pm

Given that you can take 1/2 your points in Lords or Heroes as of the End Times, the Hunter on Stonehorn may have actually been legal! :D

Sounds like you took good lessons away from the game, charging is key to a good Ogre army, without your Impact Hits you lose steam quickly. Firebellies do work best as auxiliary mages: an extra channel and a nice power dice-dump is useful.

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