White Scars vs Chaos Space Marines Warhammer 40k Battle Report - Beat The Cooler Ep 96


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Jraco (8 months ago): - delete
I know that you play a lot of different games and play a lot of different armies, but I think a little bit of research into the army you're playing would benefit you greatly in all the games you play.

If something sound s a little off, don't be afraid to check the rule book. Unless you are stressed for time. When rules are misplayed it's easy for a new player to think the rules are a certain way and play them like that until someone tells them they are wrong.

Thousand Sons have the Slow and Purposeful special rule.

No leadership test for the Bikers?

Bikers cannot shoot both the bikes weapons and their weapons. Page 45, Rule book.

Hammer of Wrath is unmodified strength. Page 37, Rule book.

The Aspiring Sorcerer in the Thousand Suns Squad, has to issue a challenge due to the Champion of Chaos special rule. Page 28, Chaos Space Marines Codex.

When the Defiler hit the Speeders with the Battle Cannon, He would roll 2 dice for each vehicle hit and pick the highest when rolling to pen. Ordnance, Page 51, Rule Book.

Vector Strike picks a random target. Page 2, left side, 5th paragraph, of the GW Rule book FAQ.

The Defiler has the Fleet Special Rule.

In the Ordnance rule, it says non vehicle model. A walker is a vehicle.
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Spacefrisian (8 months ago): - delete
1k sons have slow and purposefull, they cannot make overwatch shots.
+10
Thayvian1 (8 months ago): - delete
What happens when we hit episode 100 of beat the cooler?
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Thayvian1 (8 months ago): - delete
Wow BrutalBorat, really? How sad for your that you feel the need to say something hurtful on a family web page. You sir, are a troll.
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Fiflok (8 months ago): - delete
One more thing. 1k sons have "Veterans of the long war".
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Kaptin-Obvious (8 months ago): - delete
Jraco. Agree with everything you say except the Vector strike part. Its no random TARGET, its random ALLOCATION. That means the helldrake selects its target and is its a squad it isn't closest to the helldrake so the players models who get hit can choose which ones he/she removes.
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Epruitt1 (8 months ago): - delete
Champions of Chaos rule would have made the Sorcerer challenge Khan/Sergent in the bike groups.
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Kaptin-Obvious (8 months ago): - delete
That list was made to kill SM, poor Owen had no chance.
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Potato32 (8 months ago): - delete
Can't charge out of a rhino destroyed in the enemy turn.
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BrianHarisay (8 months ago): - delete
I know that it's going to take FOREVER to edit the footage from Apocalypticon 2013, but there is still a small part of me that keeps thinking:

WHEN WILL THEY RELEASE IT!?
WHEEEEEEEEN!!!??
Shiwan8 (8 months ago): - delete
Talons fielded in a big unit. Thats like 200 points disadvantage. Still won. Kudos!
slowhandgreg (8 months ago): - delete
Enjoyed the Bat rep the Defiler's were brutal in that game.

It was a nice list for the young lads to play against as well and I'm guessing Dave had a hand in their list

Keep the reports coming and also enjoying the response with page numbers from other active watchers it really helps.
spjungen (8 months ago): - delete
Can we like...have some new opponents on the show?
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Thayvian1 (8 months ago): - delete
Wow BrutalBorat, really? How sad for your that you feel the need to say something hurtful on a family web page. You sir, are a troll.
+3
Todda (8 months ago): - delete
The bikes can chose to arm themselves with the pistols and close combat weapons and shoot the guns on the bikes, but not shoot both as stated.
BrutalBorat (8 months ago): - delete
the moment i see its these kids i stop watching right away
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ChrisMcSwane (8 months ago): - delete
I am curious as to why the precision strike rules (p. 63) don't seem to be used in these bat reps. At 29:27 the character rolled a 6 and should have taken advantage of this rule to try to kill the power fist to avoid instant death. This is in spite the fact that most of the Chaos characters would have been obliged to challenge that character, as mentioned above, which would have allowed him to focus all his attacks on that one model, or make the power fist sit out of combat. These 2 things have led me to remove most power fists from my lists I. 6th Ed. Too easy to be negated or killed before you even get to attack. Not hidden and protected like before.
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lordraptor (8 months ago): - delete
Nice batrep Owen ^_^ Always fun to see white scars
Thayvian1 (8 months ago): - delete
What happens when we hit episode 100 of beat the cooler?
+4
Tyler6298 (8 months ago): - delete
the exception is relentless.
peterbernier (8 months ago): - delete
Nice White Scars list! I'm glad to this army in a high-points value game.
Headstone (8 months ago): - delete
I tought autocannons were heavy 3, if im not mistaken you only rolled two dice pr autocannon...
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Fiflok (8 months ago): - delete
One more thing. 1k sons have "Veterans of the long war".
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Jraco (8 months ago): - delete
I am sorry for putting Target instead of allocation.
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Kaptin-Obvious (8 months ago): - delete
Jraco. Agree with everything you say except the Vector strike part. Its no random TARGET, its random ALLOCATION. That means the helldrake selects its target and is its a squad it isn't closest to the helldrake so the players models who get hit can choose which ones he/she removes.
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pattyobrien3 (8 months ago): - delete
As Jraco said, all vehicles have the relentless special rule, which allows you to charge after using an ordinance weapon.

I really enjoy seeing these batreps, so please don't take all these comments as petty internet nitpicking. I imagine it's probably difficult keeping all the rules between all the games straight.
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Keel50 (8 months ago): - delete
I think he said the issue wasn't snap firing after the vehicle was destroyed, but because of the damage result that the vehicle had suffered.

Regarding the random allocation, at least around here no one uses it because it slows down the game, and it's more fun in my opinion to have it based on the path of the vector strike. Maybe not RAW, but I know several people do it that way.
Epruitt1 (8 months ago): - delete
Champions of Chaos rule would have made the Sorcerer challenge Khan/Sergent in the bike groups.
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pattyobrien3 (8 months ago): - delete
N/M, as owen pointed out, 1k sons are fearless. So they would have passed the pinning test automatically. They shot as normal.
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Jraco (8 months ago): - delete
I know that you play a lot of different games and play a lot of different armies, but I think a little bit of research into the army you're playing would benefit you greatly in all the games you play.

If something sound s a little off, don't be afraid to check the rule book. Unless you are stressed for time. When rules are misplayed it's easy for a new player to think the rules are a certain way and play them like that until someone tells them they are wrong.

Thousand Sons have the Slow and Purposeful special rule.

No leadership test for the Bikers?

Bikers cannot shoot both the bikes weapons and their weapons. Page 45, Rule book.

Hammer of Wrath is unmodified strength. Page 37, Rule book.

The Aspiring Sorcerer in the Thousand Suns Squad, has to issue a challenge due to the Champion of Chaos special rule. Page 28, Chaos Space Marines Codex.

When the Defiler hit the Speeders with the Battle Cannon, He would roll 2 dice for each vehicle hit and pick the highest when rolling to pen. Ordnance, Page 51, Rule Book.

Vector Strike picks a random target. Page 2, left side, 5th paragraph, of the GW Rule book FAQ.

The Defiler has the Fleet Special Rule.

In the Ordnance rule, it says non vehicle model. A walker is a vehicle.
+33
pattyobrien3 (8 months ago): - delete
When getting out of an exploded vehicle, you only have to take a pinning test. If you fail, then you go to ground, and are pinned. If you pass, you're free to shoot normally. So, at 6:27, those 1k sons should have made (and probably passed) a leadership test to see if they could only snap fire.

Also, just before you asked if 1k sons can rapid fire and charge, and the answer is yes, since they are S&P. They may not run or fire overwatch, however.
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goldteef (8 months ago): - delete
Hammer of wrath is not affected by furious charge.
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Kaptin-Obvious (8 months ago): - delete
That list was made to kill SM, poor Owen had no chance.
+3
MiniwargamerToby (8 months ago): - delete
very well painted both sides
love it
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Owen goes up against Andrew and Aiden who may or may not have had a little chaotic support! This battle report brought to you by Tim and Quinn from Boise!

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