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ConorStrife (Over a year ago): - delete
Everybody will tailor their list if knowing what army they are up against, that's the point of actually constructing a list in the first place isnt it? So why would people slate the fact you tailored against Grey knights, if i were coming over to face you, i'd prepare for Necrons or Nids , so really dont understand why people are getting worked up about it, and about terrain, people asked for more, they got more.
Sometimes you just cannot win eh? I also do agree the ruins should have been 4+, but you both agreed at the start, if either of you weren't happy before starting surely you would have said right?
People need to stop complaining and enjoy the videos you guys put so much effort in to produce for us, keep up the good work, hope comments like the ones you've got don't get you down or anything, you have many of us which appreciate the work that goes into this business and love the content you supply =]
Apologies for the long comment.
Aurgelmir (Over a year ago): - delete
To be honest I like that Matt semi tailor his list towards what he is facing.

The bat reps are called:
Beat Matt Bat Rep. And it even give prizes for winning. So beating Matt SHOULD be hard.
I also assume the opponent know if Matt will bring Nids or Crons when they set up the game, so they can tailor based on this too.
Celtic78 (Over a year ago): - delete
Stop accusing MWG members of cheating or cheasy set up.
If the opponent wasn't happy with the board he'd probably have mentioned that before the game starts!
dmanella (Over a year ago): - delete
I agree with Kill pts, being an illogical rule.

How do you feel about objectives, and the fact that only troop choices can take them?
chalkcake (Over a year ago): - delete
guys quit crying, matt's enemies agree with him before game on stuff like kill points. he wins cuz he is a good player
primetyrant (Over a year ago): - delete
MAN?!?!?! whats happening to wargaming??? its meant for people to have fun if the two people playing the game had fun then there is no need for all this bickering.... all you haters lay off!
tss1 (Over a year ago): - delete
I think it was a dice thing. I agree whit what you say about elite armee and i enjoyed to see more terrain.
Jlightning2425 (Over a year ago): - delete
The Kill Point rule is there so People have a disadvantage when spamming Multiple small units, Such as 6 different units of 5 Blood Angels in a Razorback. these 6 units can take 6 different objectives. This is a huge advantage in Capture and control and seize ground,and there needs some kind of drawback for these types of armies. Please do not get rid of it in your games.
AngryBogle (Over a year ago): - delete
Don't let trolls give you crap Matt. Your BatReps are very well done and it's nice to see you use your tyranids and the last BatRep was very good.
Salamander (Over a year ago): - delete
@Aurgelmir: I totally agree with you, if matt was easy to beat there is'nt any fun in a beat matt batrep!!

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halolamoreux (Over a year ago): - delete
First off, winning all the time is not cheating, just weird. Secondly, I play IG and have lots of shooting but love terrain and building. Some times we cover more then 25% of the broad. Finally knowing what your enemy has, is good. If I bring lots of Leman Russ and my enemy bring flamer to kill troops he going to lose. So planning your army is not cheating.
farseerchase (Over a year ago): - delete
huh it seems like matts army looks like it was made to counter grey knights who would of thunk
DrakeMalice (Over a year ago): - delete
people can get mad about GKs having a disadvantage? That just seems like absurdity
Skari (Over a year ago): - delete
I agree. Having a lot of terrain really makes 40K the game that it was intended to be.
Virideon (Over a year ago): - delete
I'm surprised that so many people complained about there being too much terrain.

In a genestealer list, it can easily hurt you as much as it helps you. You'll take less damage from shooting. However, the lack of grenades means that when you charge an enemy in cover, they'll get to slice you first (negating your biggest advantage).
DrBOB (Over a year ago): - delete
I think the killpoint-mission is not intended to be balanced in itself but all the missions together are. The kp-mission is one end of the spektrum and the marker-mission is the other. One favors a small elite army and the other one puts a huge horde in the better position. So if you build your army to be good in only one case is always a gamble. Just imagine the problems the Grey Knights would have had in a mission with 5 markers spread all over the field.
Ironclad-Warrior (Over a year ago): - delete
my god,
i knew what matt was gonna say when imread the vid description

Matt, do not even acknowledge these guys... haters gonna hate
so ****Žem
Spacefrisian (Over a year ago): - delete
Try the old victory points instead of kill points, its a better system.
Spacefrisian (Over a year ago): - delete
But their wasnt anything wrong with the terrain setup. More is better, make both players think how to use that terrain.
Vehementi (Over a year ago): - delete
The best game for using lots of terrain is Necromunda. It's highly plausible to have 100% of the table covered in terrain, with multilevel buildings, walkways. I miss playing Necromunda.

Also, I don't see what people's problem with your terrain layout was... it didn't seem one sided or unbalanced at all :s.
mcrjay23 (Over a year ago): - delete
i dont think you guys should have to address the people that are constantly complaining about every little mistake, i understand that some people dont understand y something happen and thats fine, you can tell right away that its an actual question. But seriously some people just love to complain about everything.
Ome (Over a year ago): - delete
Cheating? Thats a stretch at best. I mean maybe if they accused you of list tailoring maybe, but if I recall didn't you tailor for a vehicle heavy list, which he didn't take anyway? As far as I'm concerned all you're guilty of is making awesome batt reps and using cheestastic Necron wargear. :3 Keep on doing what you're doing as far as I'm concerned.
Harlequin78 (Over a year ago): - delete
I don't understand why people think that Matt would actualy stack the odds in his favor on purpose.
Shure winning is fun and all but i assume playing a Fun game and putting out quality content for the site is definitely a higher
priority for all the guys at MWG.

I think some people might be projecting their "winning is the most important thing" mindset on Matt whereas I believe it's more a case of "how can we make this interesting for the site and viewers" mindset at work
lordkabal (Over a year ago): - delete
List tailoring has been sorted and now so has the terrain (I didn't think there was list tailoring anyway) so it's all good.
Has any1 else noticed that it's only Matt that gets it about terrain or list tailoring ie CHEATING lol and no 1 says anything about Dan or Dave doing it Hhhmmm it seems a bit strange :/
ay2dee (Over a year ago): - delete
whatever people say Matt, you and the guys make great videos,I am at uni at the moment and have no time, people or money to currently play 40k. Miniwargaming is the only thing keeping me interested and as a result I am going to pick it up afterwards. Gamesworkshops website is just a glorified shop with no engaging content that makes me want to pick up the dice, I am looking into whether I can budget to get vault content as the quality of content is top notch and I really want to support what your doing.
TyranidSwarmlord (Over a year ago): - delete
Matt haters are gonna hate. u didnt do anything wrong and i love your batreps. they got me into 40k and nids
chaosbringer23 (Over a year ago): - delete
i do not really think it is fair to be posting those sorts of comments you have to rember that matt dose not need to make these vidoes and that he dose also have a bisness to run aswell so we should not be complaning that he is cheating when he is just trying to bring us a fun game of warhammer
Infinite-Freedom (Over a year ago): - delete
Honestly I think you put yourself at an advantage. If anything you were at a disadvantage.
Eternalshoebox (Over a year ago): - delete
take a quarter of the table and fill it with stuff. that makes it 25 percent and I find that game is best.
rich9517 (Over a year ago): - delete
@ConorStrife: hit the nail on the head there
Serder (Over a year ago): - delete
haters gonna hate,

super saves on the doom changed the game imo
gen-oneill (Over a year ago): - delete
A good thing to think about with the list tailoring, is that if you watch Matts battle reports, you can easily know what he has in his collection, plus what he likes etc. so you can get a good idea of what you are likely to be fighting if you fight Matt.
Judgefang (Over a year ago): - delete
I would think the whole idea of playing Grey Knights is to play in no win situations rather than whining about the how unfair being unable to completely outclass every army is.
Sk1dmark (Over a year ago): - delete
Matt you did nothing wrong ... it was just how the dice rolled
AlphaMail (Over a year ago): - delete
You make a good point Aurgelmir, it's not like Matt gets anything if he wins, so it's only fair.
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