Ork Tactica: Fast Attack Warbikers Part 2/2

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	Todda (Over a year ago): - delete If that was a Battle Wagon filled with 20 Boyz, you would shoot the 7 Dakkagunz for 21 shots twin linked... 12 hits or 2 Glance and 2 Pentration on average. Now I guess you could say if they are shooting the Dakkagunz they can not be using their pistols, so they would get the one less attack. So saying that still... If you pop them then you charge those Boyz. Why? Well you are attacking with 3 attacks each at S4 vs T4 and they are going to be 3 attacks each, but only S3 vs S5.... and you have 4+ armor instead of 6 armor. How would this go... 7 vs 14 (6 die in the explosion)... Well you are getting 18 attacks, 9 hits, 5 wounds, 4 dead. The 9 Boyz strike back with 27 attacks, 13 hits, 2 wounds, 1 dead. Then the Nobs hit for 2 and 1, so the bikes lose 2 and the Boyz lose 6. They only have 8 left so they are no longer Fearless and must take a Ld test -4 (4) and likely run. Think of the damage to a unit of 20 Boyz in the open... They would loose actually slight more to the Dakkagunz then the vehicle exploding in the example above and would likely have the last 7 running and getting run down as the bikes charged and have a 1I and only need to tie them. So what does this tell you... a Bike is easily worth 3 Boyz, so their higher cost is pretty much spot on. +2
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	Smasngrab (Over a year ago): - delete Got to agree whit you Dan, Stormboyz and warbikes are the two most fun choices in the ork list. Ive started to use Flash Gits a bit too lately, but thats mostly becaus ive been testing a shooty ork army, and i think of them as my shoota nobz. +1
	Gorefangz (Over a year ago): - delete @dayio: well that depends on who you ask. in my oppinion for the better becasuse i love warbikers.
	dayio (Over a year ago): - delete @Gorefangz: Really? Haha. Well it HAS been a few years. Have I learned for the better or for the worse?
	Gorefangz (Over a year ago): - delete i laughed at how different your oppinion is about warbikers in this tactica than in your other one that you did a few years ago.
	daemonicpotato (Over a year ago): - delete Part of my earlier comment failed to show up. The incomplete sentence in the beginning goes -which will horribly slaughter Warbikers.
	daemonicpotato (Over a year ago): - delete You forgot to mention a big weakness-AP4 or better template weapons-which Regarding your tactics... I wouldn't try that against Dark Eldar. We are a "divide and conquer" army, and you'll be doing half of the job for us by running up behind our "lines". And DE players know the real threat to our vehicles comes from guns shooting a lot of mid strength shots... Making your bikers an obvious target. And then your bikers will be splintered, lanced, liquifier'd, bladevaned, monoscythe'd or beaten to death. Play to your strengths and to your opponents' weaknesses-trying to outmaneouvre DE is plain suicide imho.
	Todda (Over a year ago): - delete If that was a Battle Wagon filled with 20 Boyz, you would shoot the 7 Dakkagunz for 21 shots twin linked... 12 hits or 2 Glance and 2 Pentration on average. Now I guess you could say if they are shooting the Dakkagunz they can not be using their pistols, so they would get the one less attack. So saying that still... If you pop them then you charge those Boyz. Why? Well you are attacking with 3 attacks each at S4 vs T4 and they are going to be 3 attacks each, but only S3 vs S5.... and you have 4+ armor instead of 6 armor. How would this go... 7 vs 14 (6 die in the explosion)... Well you are getting 18 attacks, 9 hits, 5 wounds, 4 dead. The 9 Boyz strike back with 27 attacks, 13 hits, 2 wounds, 1 dead. Then the Nobs hit for 2 and 1, so the bikes lose 2 and the Boyz lose 6. They only have 8 left so they are no longer Fearless and must take a Ld test -4 (4) and likely run. Think of the damage to a unit of 20 Boyz in the open... They would loose actually slight more to the Dakkagunz then the vehicle exploding in the example above and would likely have the last 7 running and getting run down as the bikes charged and have a 1I and only need to tie them. So what does this tell you... a Bike is easily worth 3 Boyz, so their higher cost is pretty much spot on. +2
	BrotherSiline (Over a year ago): - delete i thought you cant assualt the guys in a vehicle after you blow it up? with the squad that popped it i mean
	ShredRig (Over a year ago): - delete I think the true worst case senario is getting assault specialist thrown at your bikers before they can shoot.
	mozza123 (Over a year ago): - delete first -2

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